"The Oneness Pentecostals stress that God is absolutely one (Isa 44:6, 8, 24)—that is, one without distinction of persons. There are no distinctions in God’s eternal being, and the Godhead does not consist of three centers of consciousness (as some Trinitarians hold). Moreover, in Jesus dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily (Col 2:9)." (Oneness Pentecostal Confession. 9,34. 2007)
Thank you for posting these videos by brother Sabin who was a defender of the faith that was once delivered to the saints. I first heard of the murder of Michael Servetus when I listened to the debate he had with trinis on the John Ankerberg show. I don't watch Ankerberg since that time since he was not fair in his hosting of the debate. He was very partial to the heretics Martin and his partner.
Praise the Lord. I am an ex oneness believer, born and raised in the Apostolic Church. I was a minister and taught the Apostolic doctrine. Sorry to tell you I had an opposite revelation that came from studying. I am a trinny as some say, however from hearing Robert Sabin I believe him to be a very sincere and humble brother. His teaching on the Godhead from Deut.6:4 was wonderful. Although I don't agree with his conclusion, the part on loving your neighbor was a beautiful teaching which is the proof that you love God. I have seen the debate with Walter Martin and agree that Ankerberg was somewhat unfair to Bro. Sabin. I don't agree with all of Brother Sabin's teaching but he seems to be a very lovable person and though I don't know him, I love his beautiful character. So from a Trinitarian to all Oneness believers: Love God and also your neighbor, be meek and humble of heart and I pray that in spite of our misunderstandings that God will look at our hearts and see that we did love Him even if we don't see Him as three or one.
Robert Sabin Destroyed those with whom he debated. Bowman, White, the Iowa duo, Ankerbergs show with Martin and E."liar"Calvin Beisner. Bowman knew he was done when he had the second debate and came out with egg and error on his face. Martin and Beisner lied on the Ankerberg debate when they said they didn't believe in a eternal son, while Beisner's book was being offered as the premium for donations on the show and it showed he did.
Sorry to say it, but Dr. Walter Martin completely shut down and disarmed Brother Sabin. They had no answers for any of the questions asked of them and would answer with another question. At the end, they were randomly firing off questions and Dr. Martin had a response for every single question. Dr. Martin used plan and simple English to read the text, and Bro. Sabin wouldnt answer. And Bro. Urshan was way in over his head here. He hardly spoke at all and he looked lost most of the time. The text says what is says. Read it plainly an it will reveal the Trinity to you. Just because you dont understand it, doesnt mean its not true.
What a joy to see my videos being used here. I was so fortunate to meet Mr Sabin. We travelled there together with Johnny James, James Perry and Mr Sabin. I cried tears of release when he began to preach about loving your neighbor and loving the Almighty. This was such a wonderful time in my life. I'm glad some got to be blessed by it was well. Thank you.
I listened to the Ankerberg debate several times, the discussions after the show are more revealing. Beisner endorsed "Christian" adultery in his response to baptism. When Elder Urshan ask why not baptize in the name of Jehovah, upon their interpretation of Mat. 28:19, they were dismantled. However, no one verse quote or cute witty quote proves anything. I came to the revelation of how essential baptism was when I was a trinitarian, when they said a command, from the lips of our Savior, wasn't essential.
That's inaccurate. Sabin and Urshan were aware that Ankerburg was Trinitarian and accepted the invitation to debate the issue. They were completely overwhelmed in that discussion and continued to go to the O.T. to establish God's oness; not understanding that truth is singular and revelation is progressive, which is why the Trinity isn't clearly and expressedly stated there.
They did not lie. Martin said that the word games were being played by the Sabellians with " Word " and " Son ". Son was not applicable when it came to Christ's pre-existence but Word is. Martin also stated that , In the John 1:1 passage, " In the beginning was the Word ", was is a copulative verb intransitive which speaks of existence before time,in time and for all time and proves Christ's eternal its. Sabin and Urshan didn't have an answer; especially Urshan
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Thank you for posting these videos by brother Sabin who was a defender of the faith that was once delivered to the saints.
I first heard of the murder of Michael Servetus when I listened to the debate he had with trinis on the John Ankerberg show.
I don't watch Ankerberg since that time since he was not fair in his hosting of the debate. He was very partial to the heretics Martin and his partner.
Praise the Lord. I am an ex oneness believer, born and raised in the Apostolic Church. I was a minister and taught the Apostolic doctrine. Sorry to tell you I had an opposite revelation that came from studying. I am a trinny as some say, however from hearing Robert Sabin I believe him to be a very sincere and humble brother. His teaching on the Godhead from Deut.6:4 was wonderful. Although I don't agree with his conclusion, the part on loving your neighbor was a beautiful teaching which is the proof that you love God. I have seen the debate with Walter Martin and agree that Ankerberg was somewhat unfair to Bro. Sabin. I don't agree with all of Brother Sabin's teaching but he seems to be a very lovable person and though I don't know him, I love his beautiful character. So from a Trinitarian to all Oneness believers: Love God and also your neighbor, be meek and humble of heart and I pray that in spite of our misunderstandings that God will look at our hearts and see that we did love Him even if we don't see Him as three or one.
HE lost various debates
Robert Sabin Destroyed those with whom he debated.
Bowman, White, the Iowa duo, Ankerbergs show with Martin and E."liar"Calvin Beisner.
Bowman knew he was done when he had the second debate and came out with egg and error on his face.
Martin and Beisner lied on the Ankerberg debate when they said they didn't believe in a eternal son, while Beisner's book was being offered as the premium for donations on the show and it showed he did.
Nice
Oneness Vs Trinity - Walter Martin & E Calvin Beisner Vs Nathanial Urshan & Robert Sabin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t1OIPb9JXQ
Trinity vs. Oneness Debate: James White vs. Roger Perkins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5729V-XiW1E
Sorry to say it, but Dr. Walter Martin completely shut down and disarmed Brother Sabin. They had no answers for any of the questions asked of them and would answer with another question. At the end, they were randomly firing off questions and Dr. Martin had a response for every single question. Dr. Martin used plan and simple English to read the text, and Bro. Sabin wouldnt answer. And Bro. Urshan was way in over his head here. He hardly spoke at all and he looked lost most of the time. The text says what is says. Read it plainly an it will reveal the Trinity to you. Just because you dont understand it, doesnt mean its not true.
Never. Can’t lose saying God is one.
Lol.
Trinity is not in the Bible. There is no debate.
History tells you when and why it was added.
What a joy to see my videos being used here. I was so fortunate to meet Mr Sabin. We travelled there together with Johnny James, James Perry and Mr Sabin. I cried tears of release when he began to preach about loving your neighbor and loving the Almighty. This was such a wonderful time in my life. I'm glad some got to be blessed by it was well. Thank you.
I listened to the Ankerberg debate several times, the discussions after the show are more revealing. Beisner endorsed "Christian" adultery in his response to baptism. When Elder Urshan ask why not baptize in the name of Jehovah, upon their interpretation of Mat. 28:19, they were dismantled. However, no one verse quote or cute witty quote proves anything. I came to the revelation of how essential baptism was when I was a trinitarian, when they said a command, from the lips of our Savior, wasn't essential.
That's inaccurate. Sabin and Urshan were aware that Ankerburg was Trinitarian and accepted the invitation to debate the issue. They were completely overwhelmed in that discussion and continued to go to the O.T. to establish God's oness; not understanding that truth is singular and revelation is progressive, which is why the Trinity isn't clearly and expressedly stated there.
They did not lie. Martin said that the word games were being played by the Sabellians with " Word " and " Son ". Son was not applicable when it came to Christ's pre-existence but Word is. Martin also stated that , In the John 1:1 passage, " In the beginning was the Word ", was is a copulative verb intransitive which speaks of existence before time,in time and for all time and proves Christ's eternal its. Sabin and Urshan didn't have an answer; especially Urshan
Modes aren't in the Bible either. Sabellians use the term over and over adnauseum.
I think they all had a bowl of cilantro at the end of the show. I know Sabin did. He loved it and insisted that cilantro was the way of the future.
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