2 Chronicles 7:14 ESV, "if my people who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land."

This verse holds the best components for us to understand the Biblical meaning for "revival". Although the word "revival" is not explicitly stated this verse does demonstrate what is necessary for God to intervene in human affairs and renew and heal them.

This verse has meaning that is transcovental. It extends to the Hebrew people from anyone who can be called "my people" and "are called by my name". Stephen Olford stated that "revival" is "the sovereign act of God, in which He restores His own backsliding people to repentance, faith and obedience."

Revival is not a series of services, nor is it a yell or a howl. Revival is not foot-stomping and demonstrative worship. Revival is when an INDIVIDUAL refocuses on God as the center of his or her life!


Musings on Preterism 5

FP is, in some sense, a deconstruction of the Revelation of Jesus Christ and texts about the Coming of Christ in the Gospels. In this post I wanted to comment on three things: genetic fallacy, dispensations, and the Second Coming. I also want to posit a series of questions that hopefully a reader, persuaded by Full Preterism, will prayerfully and thoughtfully consider.

I have noted that FP fails on fallacious logic as well. Theologian and Philsopher Dr. Norman Geisler has pointed that out in his review the the so called "Bible Answer Man", i.e Hank Hannegraff and his book The Apocalypse Code. Note Geisler's comments:

“This fallacy [genetic fallacy] occurs in The Code when it dismisses the dispensational pretrib view because of its alleged source in John Nelson Darby (40–41) whom Hank calls a “disillusioned priest” from the 19th cent. By the same logic one could reject modern scientific inventions because some were derived from questionable sources like Tesla’s AC motor from a vision while reading a pantheistic poet and Kekule’s model of the benzine molecule from a vision of a snake bitting its tail!” (Geisler)

Often times the idea of a dispensation is ridiculed and scorned. Some fear this and tend to shy from professing to believe in the concepts of dispensations. To some it is a "spooky" word. Quite literally though it can refer to a segment or period of operation that the Scriptures record about God. For example, do we still do blood sacrifices or was Christ's sacrifice sufficient? (Ironically, some welcome Jews to their pulpits every year to fund the rebuilding of the Temple. God forbid.) Yes, the atonement of Christ was sufficient to save mankind and future blood sacrifices have no effect as God has revealed to us.

The term dispensation is theologically useful to express Biblical concepts. Dispensationalism then should preclude, at the least, the idea that God uses different means of administering His will and grace to His people. In various instances, and at several times, God has revealed His mind and will to man, or the way things should continue as He has expressed His Divine Will. At the Incarnation God expressed Himself profoundly in human nature and brought reconciliation and redemption to fallen man. He offered them salvation and hope through Jesus Christ, the Son of God.

The Second Coming of the Son of God, then, is a very key topic for the Full Preterist to consider. For example, the Full Preterist should consider these questions:

1. Is there a difference in a Christ that has already come and one that has not?
2. Is there a difference between a Christ who came spiritually and one who came physically?
3. Is there even a difference between a God who pours His wrath only on Jerusalem and one who pours it out upon the world?
4. Is the Christ who came in 70 AD the same that Futurists look for in the future?

To most Futurists the apocalyptic events of Armageddon, preceding the glorious Day of The Lord, the Millennium, during which the returned Christ will rule, are still future. In FP however we find fulfillment of all these things in the judgment of Jerusalem in 70 AD. These CHRISTO-CENTRIC events have DIFFERENT meanings and outcomes.

Another reason that I believe FP teaches a different Christ is our partaking of the Body and Blood of Christ. Believer partake of communion (the bread and the wine) today or at least until He comes (1 Corinthians 11:26). In FP view this is totally unnecessary since Christ has already come. Jesus told the believers "as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord's death until he comes."


1. Review of Hank Hanegraff's The Apocalypse Code, by Norman L. Geisler. http://www.normangeisler.net/ReviewApocalypseCode.html

Musings on Preterism 4

When Titus stormed Jerusalem in AD 70 miraculous, spiritual and divine events took place. To a Full Preterist Jesus, Himself, returned spiritually and in the clouds of the Roman army. Futurism and Preterism (Full Preterism or FP heron) have been peering at a great divide for years. This divide however usually centers upon different hermeneutical differences of the text of Scripture or over the Apocalyptic and Eschatological texts of Scripture (e.g. Daniel, Revelation). Upon closer examination however I contend that the Christ of Preterism is not the Apostolic Christ, nor is it then truly the Christ of Scripture. In the next few blog posts I will be discussing this issue in particular.

Allow me to preface with a comment about hermeneutics. It was not until the 2nd and 3rd Century that allegorical type hermeneutics came about through the pen of Origen. Later, in Medieval (A.D. 500-1500) times, St. Augustine viewed the Church as equal with the Kingdom of God and prophecy took on a new look. The grammatical-historical method, however, should be sought by modern believers.

FP views the following Christocentric events as past:

1. The Second Coming
2. The resurrection of the dead
3. Great White Throne judgment

Regarding the Second Coming. FP sees this event occurred in the 1st Century. As believers we have no reason to expect a future literal fulfillment of passages relevant to this issue. John MacArthur states that we are “renouncing not only the plain meaning of Scripture but also every creed and doctrinal standard ever affirmed by any significant church council, denomination, or theologian in the entire history of the church.” (The Second Coming, by John F. MacArthur)

In essence, this denies that Christ will ever return to earth in bodily form. To fulfill this request Jesus must have come spiritually and not personally, as the texts depict.

The Second Coming is no longer a hope, but a judgment. Words like “coming” (see Matthew 16:28) are misinterpreted. Such words are in the present tense of "coming" which points to the whole process of the arrival of His kingdom more so than to any particular event in the coming.

Events of the ongoing intervention of "the Coming One" in our history are now past. According to Spiros Zodhiates, “None of these events precludes a rapture or a Second Coming in final judgment. But the kingdom of God and of Christ is an eternal coming in mercy and judgment (Rev 1:4; 15:4; 17:14; 19:16).” (Exegetical Commentary on Matthew, by Spiros Zodhiates)

In FP all the judgments of Christ have been literally executed (See Revelation 9 and 16). The Revelation of Jesus Christ is not future but a real history book. Yet, one wonders when and even where such events occurred without historical record.

FP holds to the historicity and deity of Christ but obfuscate Christocentric doctrines to the point that His coming is not sought nor His revelation of hope enjoyed. Clearly these Christocentric events have completely different meaning. This is a different Christ.

The Apostle Paul addressed a very similar error in 2 Timothy 2:17-18:

But avoid irreverent babble, for it will lead people into more and more ungodliness, 17 and their talk will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, 18 who have swerved from the truth, saying that the resurrection has already happened. They are upsetting the faith of some. 19 But God’s firm foundation stands, bearing this seal: “The Lord knows those who are his,” and, “Let everyone who names the name of the Lord depart from iniquity.”

These two men had “swerved from the truth” by suggesting that the resurrection of the dead has already happened. This upsets the faith of many, as the Scriptures reveal.

Paul reminds us in 2 Timothy 4:8:

8 Henceforth there is laid up for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, will award to me on that Day, and not only to me but also to all who have loved his appearing.


The Second Coming by John MacArthur
Exegetical Commentary on Matthew by Dr. Spiros Zodhiates


Quotes of Note:

Only the dead have seen the end of war

George Santayana (1863-1952) - 20th Century American Philosopher


Extreme or consistent (as they like to call themselves) preterism
believes that the Second Coming, and thus the resurrection of believers,
is all past. For all practical purposes all Bible prophecy has been
fulfilled, and we are beyond the millennium and even now in the new
heaven and new earth.

by Stanley D. Toussaint


To do common things perfectly is far better worth our endeavor than to do uncommon things respectably.

Harriet Beecher Stowe (1811-1896)


The command of God is our sole standard. Conscience itself is not a trustworthy rule. If a man's conscience be unenlightened, he may be sinning, and reaping the ill consequences of his sin, not less surely because he is not conscious that his misfortunes are due to his folly rather than his fate. His conscience cannot be the standard. The standard is the law of God. Brother, I would not have thee live in daily neglect of a divine command which I am persuaded thou wouldest obey if thou didst know it. Hide not thyself behind a pillar, but come into the light, and take the word and read it, and always ask that God would be pleased to open your eyes to anything there you have not hitherto seen.

A Clear Conscience - Psa. 119:6


from The Gates of Hell by R.A. Perry, pg. 109

"Deric, look at that statue." She pointed to a statue depicting the accomplishments of man. A naked athlete stood on the clouds thrusting a javelin to the heavens by his strength. You could tell it had reached the cosmos by the stars beneath the point of the thrust. "It's supposed to depict the accomplishing of our dreams of the supernatural, by the achievements of the physical. I've bought into that rubbish my whole life. Now I sit here totally empty."


When we turn to the other New Testament data concerning the life of Jesus, we see that some actions are clearly those of a superhuman power, while others can be only attributed to a truly human power.

(from The Christian Life by Dallas M. Roark)


If you want want to get "Well Done" you got to stay on the fire - Bro. Jerry Dean


"Eternity and time differ as the sea and rivers; the sea never changes place, and is always one water; but the rivers glide along, and are swallowed up in the sea; so is time by eternity."

~ Stephen Charnock - The Existence and Attributes of God, pg. 280


from Thomas Paine in The American Crisis:

"These are the times that try men’s souls. the summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of his country; but he that stands it NOW, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman.

Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph.

What we obtain too cheaply, we esteem too lightly; ’tis dearness only that gives everything its value. Heaven knows how to put a price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated."

Adversus Trinitas

"...unless you believe that I am he you will die in your sins." (John 8:24 ESV)